Joe Rogan Experiences Globalist Control, By Chris Knight (Florida)
In a recent episode of The Joe Rogan Experience (#2411, released November 2025), host Joe Rogan sat down with security expert Gavin de Becker for a wide-ranging conversation that cut through layers of institutional trust to examine how power operates when transparency is scarce and oversight is weak. De Becker, founder of Gavin de Becker & Associates and author of the recent book Forbidden Facts: Government Deceit & Suppression About Brain Damage from Childhood Vaccines, brought his decades of experience in threat assessment to bear on topics like government secrecy, media manipulation, public health authority, and the vital role of personal scepticism.
The discussion opened with a core concern: powerful institutions — governments, intelligence agencies, pharmaceutical companies — often expand their reach during crises, relying on secrecy justified by "national security" to conduct operations that remain hidden for decades. De Becker drew on historical examples to illustrate how accountability arrives too late, if at all, to prevent or reverse harm. One stark case was Project Gladio, a post-World War II program run by the CIA's predecessor (the OSS), which embedded stay-behind networks across Europe to counter potential Soviet invasion. These networks, armed and trained in secret, were later implicated in false-flag terrorism: the 1980 Bologna train station bombing in Italy (85 killed, hundreds injured), the 1980 Oktoberfest attack in Germany (17 dead), and even the 1978 kidnapping and murder of Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro, an anti-communist ally. U.S. officials, including former CIA director George H.W. Bush, repeatedly denied involvement until European investigations forced admissions. De Becker noted that once evidence surfaced, courts reopened cases, freeing those wrongly imprisoned as "extremists" and exposing agency orchestration.
Such patterns show how "national security" claims can shield long-term covert actions from scrutiny. By the time declassification or leaks occur, the damage — lost lives, eroded trust, manipulated societies — is irreversible.
De Becker emphasised that control in modern societies rarely depends on brute force alone. Instead, it thrives through subtler mechanisms: repetition of narratives, media alignment, and enforcement of acceptable discourse, creating the illusion of voluntary consensus. He pointed to changes in the Smith-Mundt Act during the Obama era, which removed barriers against U.S. government agencies disseminating propaganda domestically — formalising what had long occurred informally. Echoing Cold War-era Project Mockingbird, where the CIA reportedly influenced journalists, de Becker observed that digital platforms have amplified this dynamic through algorithms, bots, and viral enforcement. He referenced Saudi Arabia's manipulation of Twitter (now X) with bot networks to shape public opinion, remarking that every government historically seeks to control perceptions: "If you can control their perceptions, of course, that's what every country in world history has done."
This ties directly into public health, where crises like COVID-19 revealed how fear, restrictions, and information control can consolidate authority. De Becker highlighted Event 201 — a 2019 pandemic simulation co-hosted by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, involving figures from the CIA, Chinese CDC, and media outlets. Strikingly, discussions focused not on health measures but on managing information and countering "misinformation." He argued that pandemic responses prioritised narrative control over open debate, with selective rules (e.g., liquor stores open, churches closed) weakening social bonds and increasing reliance on official messaging.
On vaccines specifically, de Becker and Rogan stressed treating them not as a monolithic category but as distinct interventions varying by disease risk, formulation, mechanism, and individual outcomes. Blanket assurances overlook key differences: tetanus is rare and non-contagious (only about 13 U.S. deaths over a decade, mostly elderly), polio is 99% asymptomatic per CDC data (with recent cases often vaccine-derived), and measles/mumps mortality had already plummeted pre-vaccination due to sanitation and nutrition improvements. They critiqued how public messaging amplifies fear without context on incidence or personal risk, while downplaying rare but severe adverse events. De Becker's book delves into alleged suppression of evidence linking childhood vaccines to brain damage, framing it as part of broader institutional deceit.
The episode's strongest takeaway is the call for scepticism as essential self-defence. De Becker put it bluntly: "If you don't have scepticism, the government runs us. We don't run the government." Practicing it means slowing down conclusions, scrutinising incentives, demanding primary evidence, and refusing to outsource critical judgment to authorities — especially when history shows oversight failures enable harm.
In an era of centralised power, digital surveillance, and crisis-driven policies, Rogan and de Becker's exchange serves as a reminder: trust must be earned through transparency, not assumed. When institutions operate with limited accountability, scepticism isn't cynicism— it's the safeguard of individual autonomy and societal health. Without it, the patterns of secrecy, narrative control, and unexamined authority risk repeating, often at great cost to those outside the corridors of power.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2026/01/18/government-secrecy-media-control-public-health.aspx
